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No Money to Invest? Hard Money Isn’t the Only Answer!

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Contributed by: Susan Lassiter-Lyons

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We’re all looking for a way to acquire investment real estate with no money out of pocket, right? It’s called leverage. Let’s talk about a few strategies to get you going without having to take the lock off your wallet.

First off, good credit is not necessary to invest in real estate. There are hard money lenders out there who will lend on the collateral instead of your credit score. So don’t let this be a barrier to you entering the REI arena. With that said, if you want to maximize your profit potential
 
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and get stellar rates on your loans that equate to smaller monthly mortgage payments, it is essential that you make an effort to know your credit score and work toward improving it.

Most full doc “A” paper mortgage loans out there will go as low as a credit score of 620. If you need a higher loan to value (LTV) of say 90-95% and you want to limit your down payment OR if you want to go with a stated doc loan (meaning your income and assets are stated but not verified), you’ll need a score of at least 680. 700’s is a great place to be when investing in real estate.

That’s a strategy if you want to pay a down payment and work with a regular lender. I personally don’t like spending ANY money to acquire a property OR working with a regular lender. Here’s a strategy you can follow to do what I did.

First, find what’s known as a portfolio lender OR a broker that has a portfolio lender or funds loans out of his or her own warehouse line. I found a small credit union through my broker that funds loans up to 100% of the sales price on non-owner occupied properties as long as the LTV is no more than 80%. Some of you may not know how cool this is, so I’ll explain. Most lenders, for purchases, calculate loan to value ratio (LTV) on the loan amount divided by the LESSER of the sales price OR appraised value. So, this is no great deal for investors who are negotiating a killer deal on a property. You still could have a high loan to value (LTV) because the sales price is low even if the appraised value is high. Get it?

My portfolio lender uses the appraised value instead of the lesser of appraised value vs sales price as long as I can refinance within 45 days. So, the next part of the equation is to find a loan program that has no appraised value seasoning on refinances. Viola, you have just created your own zero down investor loan. Get out there and take a look to see who you can develop a relationship with in your market to make this happen for you. Or better yet, get a good broker on it and buy, buy, buy!







Note:
Susan Lassiter-Lyons, owner of Lassiter Mortgage Group, LLC, specializes in residential and commercial financing for real estate investors. Visit http://www.lassitermortgage.com for more.



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Re: No Money to Invest? Hard Money Isn’t the Only Answer! (Score: 1)
by tinman1755 on Thursday, March 18, 2004 @ 07:03 PM EST

I could not have said it better myself. But the only problem I see is people actually believing this. I am a firm believer of using the appraised value over the sale price all day long.
GOOD JOB!!!!!!!!!!!![ No Comments Allowed for Anonymous, please register ]



  • Re: No Money to Invest? Hard Money Isn’t the Only Answer! by lassitermarketing on Friday, March 19, 2004 @ 04:18 PM EST



  • Re: No Money to Invest? Hard Money Isn’t the Only Answer! (Score: 1)
    by gunhead5 on Friday, March 19, 2004 @ 07:26 AM EST

    i've got a program for ya 95% LTV non- owner occupied that will allow 2% of purchase price to be paid by seller towards closeing cost min fico of 620. [ No Comments Allowed for Anonymous, please register ]



  • Re: No Money to Invest? Hard Money Isn’t the Only Answer! by lassitermarketing on Sunday, March 21, 2004 @ 12:24 PM EST


  • Re: No Money to Invest? Hard Money Isn’t the Only Answer! by MIKEDEVALL on Thursday, April 15, 2004 @ 12:52 AM EDT



  • Re: No Money to Invest? Hard Money Isn’t the Only Answer! (Score: 1)
    by REMYZAZU on Friday, March 19, 2004 @ 03:51 PM EST

    Great article! I'm still a little foggy on the Refi in 45.......[ No Comments Allowed for Anonymous, please register ]




    Re: No Money to Invest? Hard Money Isn’t the Only Answer! (Score: 1)
    by Kathleen on Friday, March 19, 2004 @ 03:53 PM EST

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    Be nice, I'm new... You would get money from this portfolio lender to do a deal, only to have to refinance in 45 days?? Is that correct?? Sorry, can you spell this out in a litte more detail for those of us trying to learn the basics?? Thanks![ No Comments Allowed for Anonymous, please register ]



  • Re: No Money to Invest? Hard Money Isn’t the Only Answer! by lassitermarketing on Friday, March 19, 2004 @ 04:17 PM EST



  • Re: No Money to Invest? Hard Money Isn’t the Only Answer! (Score: 1)
    by iamback on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 @ 09:28 AM EST

    Actually, all of your comments could be correct, depending on what part of the counntry you live in. What is good in Florida may not be good in Iowa. Here fannie Mae will take a modular as a SFR but not a manufactured home. So this site is very misleading as to what can be done and what can't. I have read many posts and articles before joining this site. I have not seen one responce that would work in all 50 states. The only one I know is called CASH. So let's not get critical of people.[ No Comments Allowed for Anonymous, please register ]




    Re: No Money to Invest? Hard Money Isn’t the Only Answer! (Score: 1)
    by gunhead5 on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 @ 03:47 AM EST

    This is to lassitermarketing in your opening of this forum you made a statement on a stated income loan doc that you needed at least a 680 fico . I'm sorry to say that is very incorrect there is a program for stated income doc 100% CLTV, minor lates, 1 month out of bankrupcy,1 month NOD, no MI, with a max loan limit of $400,000.00 with a FICO of 580 and I'm not trying to spam any body I would just like to share the fact to let people know that alot has changed as far as getting loans go in todays market. check around you'll find it.[ No Comments Allowed for Anonymous, please register ]



  • Re: No Money to Invest? Hard Money Isn’t the Only Answer! by lassitermarketing on Monday, March 29, 2004 @ 10:07 PM EST


  • Re: No Money to Invest? Hard Money Isn’t the Only Answer! by kjzinvestments on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 @ 03:15 PM EST


  • Re: No Money to Invest? Hard Money Isn’t the Only Answer! by MIKEDEVALL on Thursday, April 15, 2004 @ 12:56 AM EDT


  • Re: No Money to Invest? Hard Money Isn’t the Only Answer! by mike1law on Monday, April 26, 2004 @ 09:21 PM EDT



  • Re: No Money to Invest? Hard Money Isn’t the Only Answer! (Score: 1)
    by billkennedy2000 on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 @ 09:23 PM EST

    Some Lingo clarification please. What exactly to you mean by a seasoned appraisal? Are you saying that most sources would like to wait 12 months before refinancing your property?

    Thanks Bill[ No Comments Allowed for Anonymous, please register ]



  • Re: No Money to Invest? Hard Money Isn’t the Only Answer! by lassitermarketing on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 @ 11:19 PM EST



  • Re: No Money to Invest? Hard Money Isn’t the Only Answer! (Score: 1)
    by davehays on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 @ 05:10 PM EDT

    How are these 45 day short gun lenders making money on these deals, if there is no money down? Just a couple payments, and that is a good investment for them? Not that banks do anything but print money out of thin air, but still....

    Do they put all sorts of fees on top that get paid out in the lien when the refi happens?[ No Comments Allowed for Anonymous, please register ]



  • Re: No Money to Invest? Hard Money Isn’t the Only Answer! by lassitermarketing on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 @ 06:42 PM EDT


  • Re: No Money to Invest? Hard Money Isn’t the Only Answer! by johnbriscoe on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 @ 12:16 PM EDT



  • Re: No Money to Invest? Hard Money Isn’t the Only Answer! (Score: 1)
    by mistahkg on Sunday, December 19, 2004 @ 05:10 AM EST

    Maybe I missed something but how come you just cant skip the short term financing and get the financing from the refi lender? im assuming that within the short 45 day period there isnt much appreciation?[ No Comments Allowed for Anonymous, please register ]



  • Re: No Money to Invest? Hard Money Isn’t the Only Answer! by lassitermarketing on Sunday, December 19, 2004 @ 10:26 AM EST



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