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1031 Replacement Properties

TracyH
2007-10-21 17:34

I've read through IRS pub. 544 but thought I'd ask this anyway:

Let's say you identify 3 replacement properties within the 45 day period. On day 46 you find a property you like better. Is there any way to do the 1031 with the non-identified property?

I'm pretty sure the answer is no. I guess I just don't understand the reasoning behind the restriction.

Any help on this would be appreciated. Thank you.


finniganps
2007-10-21 18:02

No, that's why it's always a good idea to identify as many possible properties - there's NO downside to identifying more then you need.


bgrossnickle
2007-10-21 18:16

Do you have to hand anything in to an official body on exactly the 45th day? Can you back date your choices when you do hand something in, like maybe the day you close?


TracyH
2007-10-23 12:54

Thank you both for the replies.

finniganps,

There's no downside to listing multiple properties but there is a limit. Unfortunately we (my brother and I) found a place we really like after the 45 day period passed.

bgrossnickle,

I'm not sure if the paperwork can be backdated. My brother is dealing with the exchange accommodator and has an appointment with him later in the week so we'll see if anything can be worked out.


NewKidInTown3
2007-10-29 02:25

There is no reason to wait until you have opened an exchange to locate potential replacement properties.

On two separate exchanges, I contracted to purchase some pre-construction properties almost a year before I identified them as the replacement properties in an exchange.

You do have a maximum of 45 days to formally identify your replacement property, but nothing says you can't start looking for replacement properties long before you dispose of your relinquished property.


TracyH
2007-10-29 02:40

Hi NewKidInTown3,

Thank for the feedback. I think I understand what you're saying. In this case we thought we had a great replacement property lined up and then sold the property to be relinquished. After the sale the owners of the replacement property we desired changed their minds about selling.

So we have two other properties listed as replacements with the accommodator. Then, after the 45 day period, we found what we consider a much better opportunity.

There's really no point to wondering, but still: why should the IRS care if you identify the property within 45 days or not if you make a like-kind exchange within 180 days?

This concludes the desperately grasping at straws portion of our program.

I appreciate the help, NKiT3.


NewKidInTown3
2007-10-29 04:08

If you purchase a property that is not one of your properly identified properties, then the exchange fails.

When Mr. Starker did the first delayed exchange, his exchange timeline was over two years. Over time, Congress has amended the tax code to set specfic timelines for certain exchange events often as a response to curtail abuses.

The tax code is law and the exchange rules are not flexible.


NewKidInTown3
2007-10-29 04:21

Quote:

On 2007-10-21 18:16, bgrossnickle wrote:
Do you have to hand anything in to an official body on exactly the 45th day? Can you back date your choices when you do hand something in, like maybe the day you close?

Brenda,

The qualified intermediary (QI) must have "received" the list of properties you wish to identify as your replacement property on or before the 45th day after the relinquished property settles. The identification is considered received if faxed, postmarked, or otherwise identifiably transmitted (such as with FedEx or other dated courier service) on or before the 45th day of the identification period.

Since the QI has to have receipt within the 45 day identification period, backdating is a moot question.


NewKidInTown3
2007-10-29 04:46

Quote:
On 2007-10-29 02:40, TracyH wrote:
So we have two other properties listed as replacements with the accommodator. Then, after the 45 day period, we found what we consider a much better opportunity.

Tracy,

The identification period from your relinquished property sale has closed. You should complete the exchange with one or both of your other identified properties.

Nothing says you can't still acquire the property you really want. Just open another exchange to replace the property you don't want with the property you do want.

If the property you really want is still available, can you tie it up with a long term option to purchase? If it is a rental property, maybe you can lease option for a year or two while you are selling your relinquished property. Use a lease option to lock in your purchase price now and to get rental income during your option period. When your relinquished property is sold, identify this property as your replacement property, then exercise your option to purchase.

Discuss this strategy with your exchange accomodator to clarify specific details.


TracyH
2007-10-30 03:46


Quote:

On 2007-10-29 04:08, NewKidInTown3 wrote:
If you purchase a property that is not one of your properly identified properties, then the exchange fails.

When Mr. Starker did the first delayed exchange, his exchange timeline was over two years. Over time, Congress has amended the tax code to set specfic timelines for certain exchange events often as a response to curtail abuses.

The tax code is law and the exchange rules are not flexible.




Okay, this makes sense. Thanks for the explanation. I just don't get the 45 day thing. I can understand why the IRS wanted to set the 180 day limit, but why wouldn't that deadline be sufficient? (Rhetorical question. I'll stop beating this horse).


TracyH
2007-10-30 03:58




Quote:


The identification period from your relinquished property sale has closed. You should complete the exchange with one or both of your other identified properties.

Nothing says you can't still acquire the property you really want. Just open another exchange to replace the property you don't want with the property you do want.

If the property you really want is still available, can you tie it up with a long term option to purchase? If it is a rental property, maybe you can lease option for a year or two while you are selling your relinquished property. Use a lease option to lock in your purchase price now and to get rental income during your option period. When your relinquished property is sold, identify this property as your replacement property, then exercise your option to purchase.

Discuss this strategy with your exchange accomodator to clarify specific details.




I appreciate the suggestions. The property I'd like to purchase is not on the market yet but the seller is looking to sell quickly. Given our initial discussions, I don't think a lease option is an option but I'll look into it.

I'm also concerned that with the current housing market in my area it might not be so easy to sell the replacement property that I'm currently 1031-ing into. So a second exchange may not be possible right away.

Thank you for all your patient help, NKiT3. I'll speak with the accommodator and go over the options.


NewKidInTown3
2007-10-30 10:54

Why not acquire this property with a straight purchase? Bring new financing and cash to the settlement table to purchase the property you want.

lf it is not on the market yet, the owner is not that anxious to sell, so you may have time to put this deal together.

Don't have ready cash for the downpayment? Get it by cashing out equity in your replacement property after the exchange closes. Talk with your favorite lender to see how quickly you can do a cashout refinance after you acquire the property.

If you need six months on title to do a cash out refinance, and the property owner won't wait that long, consider an equity loan against your primary residence. How about a personal loan at your bank? Is there a family member that will loan you the money?

If you really, really want this property, explore all your options


NewKidInTown3
2007-10-30 11:43

Quote:

On 2007-10-30 03:46, TracyH wrote:
I just don't get the 45 day thing. I can understand why the IRS wanted to set the 180 day limit, but why wouldn't that deadline be sufficient? (Rhetorical question. I'll stop beating this horse).

When Mr. Starker did the very first delayed exchange, there were no specific rules in place. He was attempting to complete a direct or simultaneous exchange except Crown Zellerbach Corporation (the other party to the exchange) did not have any suitable property to exchange that Mr. Starker wanted.

Mr. Starker and Crown Zellerbach took the exchange one step further. Mr. Starker agreed to transfer title to his property immediately and further agreed that Crown Zellerbach would have the next five years to acquire property acceptable to Mr. Starker that would be used to complete the exchange.

Meanwhile, the money that Crown Zellerbach would pay for Mr. Starker's property would be held in escrow in an interest bearing account.

This was the first delayed exchange, and there were no rules governing the timeline. In effect, Mr. Starker had a five year identification period. Eventually, Mr. Starker identified nine different land parcels that Crown could acquire to complete its side of the exchange.

In 1984, after this delayed exchange survived a three separate challenges in court and the tax deferral was upheld, Congress passed rules to put constraints on the delayed exchange. It was not until 1991 -- a full seven years later -- that the IRS finalized its interpretative regulations. These regulations have governed delayed exchange transactions since June 10, 1991.

I don't know what the sense of Congress was at the time, but I am sure they felt that a five year identification period was much too long.

[ Edited by NewKidInTown3 on Date 10/30/2007 ]


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