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100% LTV NOO LOANS!!!! (Non-Hard Money)

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Most real estate books and courses all take about 100% LTV Non Owner Occupied loans. So it is not a surprise that on the message boards you find a lot of messages looking for these programs or questions about them.


First off they do exist! But are you sure that you understand how they work?

But before we get to deep lets get a very important term straight. LTV or Loan To Value, conventional lenders use the lower of purchase price or appraised value to determine LTV.

They are usually two loans one for 80% and a second for 20% of the LTV. This gives you a CLTV (Combined Loan To Value) of 100%.

The first loan will have a lower risk so it has a lower rate. The second loan has a very high risk to the lender so the rate is very high. The “Blended rate” usually works out to a
 
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reasonable rate. Not a low rate but a rate that will compensate the lender for taking the risk. Part of this is off set due to the fact that you will not have PMI.

One of the reasons that investors want these loans is they don’t have a down payment. Well you will still need some cash to get one of these loans. Most limit the seller’s contributions on closing cost to 3% of the loan amount. So you will need to come up with enough cash to cover the cost that exceed 3%.

Most also require 6 months worth of reserves in seasoned cash. This means that you need enough CASH to make 6 months worth of payments. This will usually work out to 5 to 7% of the loan amount. You will have to show where this cash came from. And a cash advance on the credit card is not a good answer.

Good credit is required to get these loans. I used to spend a lot of hours looking for 100% LTV NOO programs for people with lower scores. Any time I found one for FICO’s below 680 the rates made hard money look good. At least hard money requires very little paper work.

Speaking of paper work, be ready to show full documentation. Stated or no ratio on these loans jumps the rate.

Watch for prepayment penalties. It is very common for the lenders to require a prepayment penalty.

You will also need enough income to keep the DTI numbers in line.

The good part is that you get to keep the cash that you have on hand. You do not have to put it into the next deal. If the property will cash flow using this program use the cash flow to build your reserves up to do another 100% loan. Until you max out on the number of 100% loans that you can get.

Hopefully by that time the value of the first few deals is now high enough that you can refinance them at less than 90% LTV. This will lower your interest rate down closer to a market competitive rate increasing your cash flow.

So 100% LTV NOO loans are not easy to get and they are not cheap. But when used correctly they can help you acquire a few properties without using up all of your cash.




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Re: 100% LTV NOO LOANS!!!! (Non-Hard Money) (Score: 0)
by jackman on Friday, October 31, 2003 @ 01:47 PM EST

excellent explanation lacashman! now i know that i shouldn't spend time looking for those.[ No Comments Allowed for Anonymous, please register ]



  • Re: 100% LTV NOO LOANS!!!! (Non-Hard Money) by lacashman on Friday, October 31, 2003 @ 07:23 PM EST



  • Re: 100% LTV NOO LOANS!!!! (Non-Hard Money) (Score: 1)
    by chrisxg20636 on Friday, October 31, 2003 @ 09:03 PM EST

    see I'm just the opposite. I have the cash reserves to show the six months, and rentals are popping in this area so having a positive cash flow even on 100LTV would not be difficult. Not to mention that I still find sellers sacrificing homes at 80-90% of FMV enough that 100 looks real attractive.

    so where are they?
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  • Re: 100% LTV NOO LOANS!!!! (Non-Hard Money) by royale on Tuesday, February 03, 2004 @ 07:40 PM EST



  • Re: 100% LTV NOO LOANS!!!! (Non-Hard Money) (Score: 1)
    by moneyprivate on Monday, November 03, 2003 @ 01:55 PM EST

    This is true that its hard to get this type of loan. Problem is they take a longgggggg time you have to have really good scores and a lot of liquid assets to impress this kind of lender. They actually have to sell this loan themselves to a investor once they get it. You need patience and a long expiration on a contract to deal with this loan otherwise.[ No Comments Allowed for Anonymous, please register ]



  • Re: 100% LTV NOO LOANS!!!! (Non-Hard Money) by omega1 on Wednesday, February 04, 2004 @ 11:36 PM EST



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